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by Wilson

Adsense Alternatives

July 10, 2007 in Lessons, Money Making Ideas

We want to thank John Chow and his readers for their interest and support. We just really wanted to get the message of not depending solely on one source of income/revenue, and this view can go towards your day job too.

Here is a list of AdSense alternatives we have been using from roughly June 20 to July 10 with some screenshots. We have found out that the income is no where close to where adsense can bring in for the types of sites we have built mainly because the traffic is international – many ad networks don’t like this. We have already killed off two of our servers to get $1,400 off our backs and cancelled a few projects.

Adbrite: pulling roughly 200 a day. Payout is 2 months though and are in checks.
YPN: 0 to 30 dollars a day – very careful about putting this on any sites right now. Have to make sure they are all US traffic.
Valueclick: about 200 a day from this as well.

Bidvitiser: Tried it for only 1 day. Seems too bootleg. Got 14 cents off it for about 100K impressions.
Kontera Ads: Ok so far but need to manually approve all the sites.
Text Link ads: Have some approved sites but no buyers so far.

Affiliate sales through Azoogleads, clickbank, NeverBlueAds, HydraMedia, MaxBounty, and CJ – pulls in about 1-1.5K a month.

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For these ad networks, with some tweaking they may be able to produce better results. Yes, it was just plain stupid and a rookie move to depend solely on google AdSense. But we made companies, hardly told anyone what our sites were, and had multiple adsense accounts and that gave us some (false) sense of security.

Compare all those with a day on adsense with just one account, This was the last time i logged in and took a screenshot. It is not earnings for one hour (1am). adsense is always delayed 3 hours so there was 2 more hours left for that day. I also am blocking some info for respect.

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by Wilson

Banned from Google Adsense – Lost $200,000

June 29, 2007 in Business, Education, Lessons, Wealth

I don’t even have the words to describe the frustration we are going through right now. The total loss is around $200,000 or something but we don’t have an exact amount because we can’t log into any of our AdSense accounts. With server fees and programmer fees still bleeding us right now as I type. It’s quite depressing and the only reason why I decided to blog about this crap is because I read John’s post a few days ago. He did warn his readers about putting all their eggs in one basket way before this post but I just never broke the “engineer’s mindset” of trying to optimize systems with the training I went through in high school and college. I just thought that I could make sites with AdSense generating all the revenue. We never thought that this would happen to us. We were so close. We thought that it only happens in the movies – where the hero works so hard and is so close to achieving his goals and winning, but then losses everything because of something so small and stupid. Think of when Rocky lost all his fortune when his brother in law, Paulie signed a contract giving his lawyers power of attorney. Or when Tony Montana from Scarface lost everything because he got greedy and careless. We always thought that that would never happen to us and that we were smarter than that. One of the main things we have learned from this is that money can make you STUPIDER and lazier.

I think one of the possible reasons why we got banned for invalid clicks is because we logged into our accounts during our vacation in LA. Also it is possible that someone found our major sites and click botted for days when we were on vacation. We do not know if any of our sites were attacked or not but we have always purposely kept our personal sites like this blog low in traffic because I was scared that haters would do something like this. We have already appealed the bans but so far nothing but canned responses. There is no phone number or address or any humans there. Their forums are useless and replies just go unanswered.

I feel really cheated with the payments pending to arrive in days when we got the ban emails for invalid clicks. Google does not pay publishers even for the previous month’s earnings if you get banned. There was no warning and it never entered my head that I could lose all of our adsense accounts. We never clicked on our own ads nor told anyone to do so. We even kept most of our sites a secret. It’s not even about the money. It’s about the businesses and passive income we worked so hard to build. I have no idea how we can come back from this. I think the only person who truly knows and understands what we are going through is Robert Kiyosaki who lost his very successful business because of some stupid little mistake. I guess it is true, that true success comes only after many failures with priceless lessons. This is the greatest failure/setback that we have ever had in our 25 years of life so far. It has really opened our eyes to strive to become better people, businessmen, and being more grateful. The measure of a man is not the amount of money he has or the amount of daily passive income but the wealth of happiness he has during his time on this world. When we were banking all that money everyday we should have been more grateful, less arrogant, more careful, and should have been happier. We never truly appreciated what we had until we lost it. I should have actually followed what I posted here: Strategy for Success.

During the last few days when we were really down feeling stressed, depress, and even suicidal – one of our old high school friend called us. Surprisingly it uplifted us. We had last talked to him about 2 years ago but during this unexpected phone call he told us that he was actually starting on his journey to mastering money. One thing he said was “Don’t worry guys, you’re gonna make a comeback.” We are neither poor nor rich now but the knowledge and experience including this painful $200K lesson which we have learned during our journey so far is priceless.

I do not know when/if we will ever post again here. Hopefully we’ll make a come back. Cherish your success and time. Be GRATEFUL for what you have and Good Luck.

Henry and Wilson

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by Henry

I Got Here, So Can You

February 13, 2007 in Business, Investing, Lessons, Money Making Ideas, Self Development, Success, Wealth

If you are new to the making money business or are just thinking about it, you should probably read this post. I’m not going to go into details about all the ways you can make money now online and offline because there really are countless ways to do it now – many suck, some work, some don’t, some work but are proportional to how much effort you put in. You can just google it and see that there are endless ways to make money now and new ones are popping up everyday. Just two years ago, my twin and I were still in school and making ZERO dollars on the web. We didn’t have a single website, no clue about html, no clue about “affiliate marketing”, CPA, clickbank, Adsense, YPN, blogs, etc etc. So just how did we manage to reach the point where we are now? I think that there are two fundamental reasons how we got to where we are. The first one is this: Not Settling and staying hungry. The second thing is that we believed we could do it.

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